Ben, Matt






George Lucas



A fun potpourri of Star Wars, Pope Michael, and Disney-bashing.


This guide entry contains spoilers for:
  • Star Wars sequel trilogy
1:51 I would sell The Sci-Fi Christian for $4 billion. Oh, yes, yes absolutely. I'd sell you for $4 billion.

2:34 Ben does a great Darth Vader "Nooooooo"

3:48 Matt talks about his feelings when he heard the news I was excited, I was nervous, I didn't know what to feel exactly at first. But I think...I think I feel that there's some positivity that could come out of this. Sounds like your wedding night. Say it again, what? Sounds like your wedding night. Like, you're nervous-- 'I was nervous, I was excited, I didn't know what to expect.' Unfortunately, I'm unmarried, so I don't quite understand that reference.
5:46 Ben tells about when he found out the news So then I'm done at the library, and I'm walking to a meeting with one of my professors, and I call up my friend on the phone, and he says-- Me? No. Oh. No. We didn't talk on Tuesday. A different friend?
9:23 How much are pope robes going for these days on Craigslist? Oh man, probably a lot. Would you, if you were gonna to buy a pope robe, would you look to Craigslist or eBay? I like eBay. Yeah, higher quality there. PayPal.

9:36 Ben discusses Pope Michael

12:18 Matt asks Ben how much he'd like to be Pope, on a scale from 1-5. For a non-serious answer, we'll give it a 3.7. OK. Thank you. I will give it like a 2, because I think it would be cool, but not so cool that I want to be Catholic. Oooh! Oooh! Sorry. Geez, what a dick. *laughs* You can leave that in. OK, I'm keeping that in. I'm sorry folks that had to hear Ben say that. Ever since you became a Catholic, you've sworn so much more. I'm not saying that that was a swear word, but you've been way more inappropriate on the show. Well, I think it's because, not so much being a Catholic but not being a pastor anymore. My motivation to be a good example has dwindled. Just for the record, I would usually edit that out, but I just don't want to. It's super time-consuming to edit out everything Ben says. You don't know. You don't know what I do: every single week I have to edit out Ben. And I just don't want to. It's true. I feel a little bad about it but not very bad.
15:08 I bet you that there will be some type of Skywalker character. I think there has to be, right? Yeah. So who's kid is it gonna be? Luke's or Leia's? Maybe a little bit of both. Star Wars: The Next Generation. I don't mean like-- My face just dropped. Now that was unintentional. You don't mean their children. Like, together. OK. No, no. So you think like Han and Leia's child, and then also Luke's child with a different woman other than his sister. Yes. OK. That's what you meant. That's what I meant.
18:30 I hope they don't do something like where Han Solo has his own movie, and Chewbacca has his own movie... That would be stupid.

George Lucas had a treatment for Episodes 7-9 We'll find out what it was in № 662.

Ben says The Avengers is the worst thing Joss Whedon has done.

Ben doesn't like Disney buying Star Wars because:

  • It's Lucas's story
  • People always want more, and it's a problem with the culture

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Ben would prefer a reboot than a continuation of the existing Star Wars story.