Great theological overview
Ben uses the framework from The Gospel Coalition's article What About Those Who Haven’t Heard? as a starting point. From most exlusive to most inclusive:
Believing 1-6 are compatible with orthodox Christianity.
In Lumen Gentium, the Catholic church affirmed that #6 is possible.
We do always just leave this chair empty.
No, it's not empty. What if he wanted to sit there right now? Your pants are on it.
I know, my pants are hanging here, I got a laptop case. I mean, what if this was the week Jesus wanted to fill the chair?
We do have two empty chairs. Just for the Father and Son; Holy Spirit's gotta stand.
Ben believes #4 (optmistic orthodox) and is sympathetic to #5 and C. S. Lewis-style #6.
Obviously I agree with what the church is teaching us here through the second Vatican Council--
I don't want to interrupt, but I just want the listeners to just know, just in case there's anyone wondering: the pants that are on the chair are a different pair of pants than the ones I'm currently wearing.
That's true. Not since The Life Report have we done a show where Matt did not wear pants.
That's also not true. I've always--one of my main podcasting rules has been: wear pants.
Are you an optimistic agnostic or a pessimistic agnostic regarding Matt's wearing of pants?
I don't think any of us want even our enemies to suffer for eternity.
Not for eternity.
Matt believes #5. He thinks 1-5 are orthodox.